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Discussion in 'Warner Bros.' started by Dave Koch, Nov 2, 2013.

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    I've heard all about how she has no personality(Though at the end of Space Jam she started acting a little "looney" so to speak) and her annoying stalker-like personality in The Looney Tunes Show. So my question to you guys is that what should her character be like? What should be done differently about her? Should they build on her looney-ness given to her by the end of the aforementioned film?
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    Lola Bunny should be left as is. The Bruce Smith version seen in Space Jam was widely regarded as a one-dimensional character shoehorned into the cast to mitigate the Looney Tunes' gender inequality. Much of the "no personality" gripe comes as a result of Lola's primary comic mechanism, called "Beware The Nice Ones" on TV Tropes. Lola is usually seen as small, demure and soft-spoken; however, when an opponent dismisses her as nothing more than a pretty face, Lola displays surprising athleticism and agility. This mechanism routinely occurs in the Archie comics, when chauvinist Reggie Mantle crows that boys are "better" than girls. Veronica Lodge will slip into demure damsel mode, then completely outclass Reggie in every competition, then offer him cookies and bandages afterward.

    The Looney Tunes Show is deliberately taking the strong, iconic Looney Tunes characters into never-before-seen situations and story lines. In fact, there appears to be a conscious effort on the part of the producers to avoid similarity to the LT cartoons of the Forties and Fifties. As part of this dichotomy, Tony Cervone has reconfigured Lola Bunny into her polar opposite from Space Jam: she's now kinetic, intrusive and verbose. Although this has alienated the few fans of Smith's Lola, the new Cervone Lola has plenty of comic mechanisms at her command, and is garnering many more fans than the old Lola.

    During 1997 and beyond, cartoon fans were grousing, "I'd like Lola better if she were loonier." Wish granted: Cervone has pureed Lola Bunny's mind, and sent her wandering into the cul-de-sac unmedicated. And the Nielsen numbers for the show are vindicating Cervone completely.
    oneuglybunny, Nov 4, 2013
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    Hmm,

    I keep hearing people say that a hybrid between Space Jam Lola and TLTS Lola could work. I wonder what that would be like?
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    I'm guessing you must've been to Toon Zone, 'cause a lot of folks there are saying that.

    Personally, I'm OK with the Looney Tunes Show version of Lola, though I can understand why some people take issue with that version of the character.

    For me, all WB has to do is tone down some of Lola's extreme behavior (such as thinking Porky is a seal, for example) and possibly modify her design a little (I preferred the layered eyes she had in Space Jam) and I'd have no complaints.
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    Apologies for the double post, but there's something else that I wanted to add:

    Yes, I can understand some peoples' objections to the kooky, ditzy, hyper, spacey version of Lola from TLTS, but the thing that those people tend to forget is that TLTS was aimed first and foremost at kids, and kids love silly characters. They eat them up. Witness the success of characters such as SpongeBob Squarepants and his buddy Patrick Star or Phineas and Ferb's incompetent Dr. Doofenshmirtz with the tot set. Fact is most of the folks who gripe about TLTS' take on Lola are already well outside of Cartoon Network's target demographic in the first place, so that version of the character wasn't really meant to appeal specifically to them.
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    As a matter of preferences, my vote goes to Bruce Smith's Lola from Space Jam over Tony Cervone's Lola from The Looney Tunes Show. However, I am also aware that those who decry Smith's Lola as a Mary Sue (technically a canon sue) outnumber those who applaud her by about eight to one. A character so poorly received must be buried like Gabby Goat, or rebooted in the manner of Cervone's Lola. And Cervone chose wisely to reboot Lola Bunny into a Screwy Squirrel persona, very much way Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck started out. From his Screwy Squirrel start, Bugs Bunny refined his lunacy into the karmic trickster that Fred "Tex" Avery founded and Chuck Jones codified. And from Daffy Duck's origin, he's been molded into an opportunist-narcissist-anarchist, and in the process, has become Bugs Bunny's ideal foil.

    I don't see how the two versions of Lola can be homogenized at this point; they are too diametric characters. Nonetheless, I believe that Lola will, over time, have her insanity dialed back, probably to the point of "girl logic," similar to Melody Valentine from Josie and the Pussy Cats. As it stands, however, the Cervone Lola should be considered the canon version, while the Smith version was a proto-Lola, similar to the proto-Bugs characters that appeared before "A Wild Hare."
    oneuglybunny, Nov 11, 2013
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