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Limited Animation in the MGM cartoons

Discussion in 'MGM' started by Dave Koch, Nov 3, 2013.

  1. Dave Koch

    Dave Koch Cartoon Admin

    Oct 27, 2013
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    Ummm, the Gene Deitch shorts actually don't really count because they were entirely made at a animation studio in Cchezvolkia produced by Willam Synder's Rembrandt Films, the Chuck Jones Sib Tower 12 cartoons also don't count either.

    Anyway on to the Limited Animation, actually this will more be a post about the transition of the degrading of the animation in the MGM shorts, first of all enitrely Television is the first thing that immediately comes to mind, secondly, of course, UPA comes to mind as well, when Tex Avery came back after a short 1950 sabbitical in 1952, his shorts began to utlilize UPA-inspired everything, backgrounds, color stylings, character designs and all, due to the services of Ed Benedict and later that only took a long while to get into the Tom and Jerry cartoons (because Hanna and Barbera seemed to have a strong dislike for the "UPA crap" and one of them went so far as to say "Nobody likes Mister Magoo"), which the animation had already stiffened up at that point and had already begun to look extremely wobbly (one word sums up that screams the layouts), see Proffesor Tom from 1948 for that, and obviosly even the title cards began to show that as well, right down to the lettering and that actually exactly mirrored that of the H-B television title cards, Third was CinemaScope: Well actually thick outlines (in the exact same way that which also exactly mirrored H-B's television output) had been used pretty much earlier, see the Tom and Jerry cartoon Mice Follies for this and also Puppy Tale, and later that was adopted to good use in the Cinemascope stuff for everything to entirely read not on that wide CinemaScope screen but to television screens at the time, and also with that exact changover, Fred Quimby leaves to retire, gives everything to Bill and Joe, Tex Avery had already left the studio for good in 1953, and then we have Michael Lah take his place as director, the animation (while the Droopy Leperachaun short still had some semi-funny reaction takes which were animated by Carlo Vinci) was beginning to get even more worse than it already was, untill it came to the point were it had begun to look extremely choppy, bizzarely limited (lots of unnesscary holds inbetween) and really wobbly (Robin Hoodwinked only one measly cartoon sums it all up), it's sure the fault of Television that animation became like that, i'm aware, but this was actually one of the damages struck by UPA on how stylized animation (even for the Television stuff) should be like, and most of the studios sure bought that and it caused a blow we've never really recovered from.

    This is apparently all i could really say for right now, instead lets hear your posts to carry on this thread, cheers.
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    ~ Howdy, Dave!
    It think for limited animation nothing can really compare to Chuck Jones 1966 MGM release, "The Dot and the Line: A Romance in Lower Mathematics". The narration by Robert Morley is brilliant!

    The Dot and the Line won the 1965 Academy Award for Animated Short Film. It was entered into the Short Film Palme d’Or competition at the 1966 Cannes Film Festival.

    Here is a YouTube link for your viewing pleasure;

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