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Is CN becoming a Scooby-free network?

Discussion in 'Cartoon Network, Nick, Boomerang and The Hub' started by wiley207, Dec 1, 2013.

  1. wiley207

    wiley207 Intern Forum Member New Member

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    (NOTE: This is not necessarily a "CN sucks" rant, but it's something I noticed that I felt like sharing...)

    It's kinda funny, looking back ten years ago (and further than that), Cartoon Network used to play a LOT of Scooby-Doo -related stuff. But now, as of the start of this past November, the only thing that is on is the abomination known as "What's New Scooby-Doo" and the occasional 2000s Scooby movie!
    And given the time-slot placement (6 AM weekdays for "What's New"), along with them no longer airing any other Scooby shows (not even SD:MI!) it looks like Cartoon Network is slowly losing interest in showing Scooby-Doo programming. Maybe they are aware now of how prior to 2004 they showed a lot of Scooby-Doo stuff, and have decided to cut back?

    This will possibly hurt CN in the long run. Not only was Scooby a staple of CN since the mid-1990s, it was one of the few Hanna-Barbera classics to receive regular airtime until the "city" format was introduced in 2004. (That was when classic Scooby airtime began to diminish, but nowadays it's just about ANY form of Scooby-Doo.)
    For years, Scooby-Doo was also CN's Halloween spokes-toon, until maybe 2005, when the Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy took over :mad: and now they don't seem to care that much with THAT canceled...

    I just can't understand why CN wants to be like this. They apparently do not care about quality anymore; only quantity and ratings. (The animation on the original Scooby-Doo shows was rather low-quality, but they were fun, thrilling, suspenseful, funny, a little scary (like that Puppet Master episode) and CARTOONY. Counter that with "What's New," which instead tries to act like the gang is in the real world and is not very creepy at all, along with the forced "Internet" jokes and character redesigns. SD:MI was different, because it was MORE than just a mystery series like the previous shows were, so it makes sense there (and had a good recurring story arc to get me hooked!)

    Any idea on why this is happening?
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    I wish I knew. But remember, Scooby isn't the only old school Hanna-Barbera character they no longer show. In fact, they dropped practically all things H-B, and aside from airing certain ones on Boomerang(which my cable company doesn't even carry), they seem to have forgotten Hanna-Barbera even existed.
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    How many mysteries involving bogus ghosts are left to tell? Shrug.
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    Entertainment is mostly a no-win game. When Scooby Doo, Where Are You? debuted, it was virgin stuff, so nobody had preconceived notions about it. The problem arises when the Scooby mythos continues. Hanna-Barbera could cling to the old formulas and stock scenarios. But that results in cries like: "Been there, seen that" and "Nothing new here" and "Booo-ring." Conversely, Hanna-Barbera could and did go in new directions with these characters, shifting focus and changing perspectives. And this too created derision: "This ain't no Scooby" and "They changed it, now it sucks" and "WTFITS?" Therefore, Hanna-Barbera / Cartoon Network are unimaginative if they adhere to the old Scooby methodology, and they're blasphemers if they deviate from the original template.

    This is likely the most common reason that acclaimed creators go the "one-and-done" route. If their creation carries on too long, it will lumber onward mindlessly, becoming a franchise zombie. Cartoon Network has probably realized that nostalgia alone won't carry a show, let alone a network. They must seek and cultivate new material, stuff the viewing public hasn't seen before. Because the public will always cry, "Whadaya got that's new?"
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    To be honest, I'm really not surprised. Scooby Doo has certainly had a long successful run in all sorts of franchises and forms. However, you can only do so much with four mystery solving kids and their dog, and I always felt that this mystery solving dog had finally run out of tricks.
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    Yeah, I'm not really seeing how Cartoon Network not airing one show you like that much these days somehow equates to the network caring about quality anymore.

    Sure, Scooby-Doo has been a staple of CN since its' genesis, but at the same time, they're not required by law to carry a Scooby show for all eternity.

    CN didn't "stop caring about quality" just because they've cut back on one of your favorite decades-old shows. It just changed, as all channels do, with its' audience.
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    Every network cares about quantity and ratings. That's the way that it's always been.

    And sorry, Wiley, but I don't see how Cartoon Network not airing old-school Scooby Doo much anymore equates to the network no longer caring about quality. Cartoon Network has to program for millions of viewers, not just a select few. Toon's target audience is kids aged 6-13, not adult nostalgia buffs. Anyone older than 13 is considered to be Boomerang's problem, not theirs . CN, like every television network, has to move with the times. They know that shows like Adventure Time, Regular Show, The Amazing World of Gumball, Uncle Grandpa, etc. will put more butts into seats than a 20-year-old rerun of Scooby Doo will. I can understand if you're not happy with the way the network is being run nowadays, but at the same time, you can't fault CN for airing what it's target audience wants to see.
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    I agree with Goldstar. Networks have to adapt to today's times. The generation that grew up with Scooby-Doo is getting up there in age, and it seems as if today's younger viewers are not into Scooby-Doo anymore. Scooby-Doo is more Boomerang material nowadays. Even still, it won't stay on Boomerang forever. A familiar rhyme to consider: If the ratings are low, the show must go.

    I can see why the DVD set of The Richie Rich/Scooby-Doo Show released in 2008 was the lowest-selling Scooby-Doo DVD ever at that time. To be honest, I'd only care for the Richie cartoons over Scooby-Doo.

    It really is a pity that today's generation cares more about South Park and Family Guy now.
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    A lot of good points have been raised and it really started me thinking. I was raised on Scooby Doo, introduced my kids to Scooby Doo. Bought video games for the Sega Genesis/Super Nintendo, Nintendo GameCube and Sony Playstation with Scooby Doo themes. Not to mention the books and videos about Scooby Doo.

    These older cartoons have an established history and Scooby Doo is a cash cow!!!! Why take it off and sever that link. If I had Warner stock, I would be asking questions! These older shows make money.

    Twenty years from now most people will still remember Scooby, but how many will remember the rest of Cartoon Networks schedule?
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    Ben 10 Omniverse recently had an episode parodying Scooby Doo only cause Derrick J Wyatt used to be the artist of Scooby Doo Mystery Inc., and the writers of the new Ben 10 don't know anything about writing an original episode of an action show.
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    It appears that CN is not Scooby-free. Earlier this week, I read on the Flickr Hanna-Barbera forum that Warner Bros. Animation is developing yet another Scooby series for CN. It's called Be Cool, Scooby-Doo! and it recasts the gang as recent high school graduates. Little else is known about it right now.
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    Be_Cool_logo.jpg The treatment of the eyes suggests they are going for a "Cow and Chicken" drawing style.
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    I am mindful that the dog character Scooby Doo was engineered by Hanna-Barbera stalwart Iwao Takamoto, who had been told the desirable traits of the Great Dane breed of dog, and deliberately constructed the worst possible derivative of that breed: a Lousy Dane. This latest construction seems to me to take Takamoto's undesirable traits one or two steps further. I am also mindful that Scooby Doo is usually the clumsy, cowardly, loose-cannon of the group, so upgrading Scooby's comedic traits signals that his directors intend to treat him as the buffoon that he is. :)

    Or would you rather see Scooby Doo as a meteor-powered Loonatic? :eek:
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    We did get close to that in 2006...
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    But just like Loonatics, Warner is now acting this series never existed, and treating it like the "black sheep" of the franchise.
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    Nope nowhere near becoming Scooby free. In the UK there are a load of Scooby's still on in fact all of them other than the one with the 80s disco music and 13 ghosts.
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    Cartoon Network will NEVER be Scooby-Doo Free...sad but true.

    They'll be another incarnation of this show after the 2014 version, I'm sure.
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    Just because Cartoon Network keeps trotting out a new Scooby-Doo series every couple of years doesn't mean that we have to watch them...

    To me, it's only "sad" in the sense that CN and WB are sitting on a entire vault full of characters and franchises available to them in the H-B library, yet they won't give anything other than Scooby a chance with a new show. I understand sticking to a proven success, but WB is starting to use Scooby-Doo as a crutch to lean on at the expense of trying something new, just like how DC has become overly reliant on Batman.
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    I like Scooby Doo cartoon, Now days watching oggy and the cockroaches on NickIndia.com
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    Scooby Doo is one of the my favorite cartoon, and I really very excited to watch new series and I hope CN telecast soon.

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